PIS merchandise?

[Burn]

OK folks,

FYI: while he was in Cologne, Kleanthes and I discussed the idea of promoting the PIS site with t-shirts etc. NO PROFIT, of course, as he already said in the "Introduce yourself" thread.

So just for kicks, I made a few quick designs, all of which I just thought up very quickly without consulting with any of the official PIS members. So if you think this sucks, feel free to bash me or just delete this thread...

-Burn

Design 1: "PIS off!"
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back:
www.bodywithoutorgans.de/data/PISoff_back.jpg
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Design 2: "Rose" (for Mr. K himself, maybe?)
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Design 3: "Manifesto"
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back:

[Burn]

Of course, if anyone's interested, it'd be great to see other people's ideas. Here are the blanks:
black front


black back


white

[Kleanthes]

Burn rocks! For a quick brainstormer this is supercool!

A couple of things:

1. I also talked about merchandising with Jan W who is currently doing a revamp of the site (see below).

2. "My" avatar is stolen from my favourite German band, the wonderful STAGEBOTTLES (http://www.stagebottles.de) who I am about to translate their band history into German -- AND THEIR FOURTH ALBUM JUST CAME OUT! -- So yes, I would like that rose'n'bones if I get Olaf's OK (and if people like it)

3. I understand that this is just a brainstorm, so a final version would look less crooked (sorry Burn, I don't want to be picky) -- and we need our own font!

So, as for the new PIS-site, here's a few points:

1. Christina U has created a really cool new logo; it can be viewed (and commented on) at punksinscience.org/PIS/pis.jpg .

2. Jan W will create a new design with that logo (or renditions after feedback) -- the new page will be something like his own thing (in German: http://www.kulturbrause.de), a little less stuff, a little more "order" (), but the idea is clear: one can sign up for access, will be mailed a password, and once logged it can post stuff (texts, links, papers) -- there will be plenty of space for a nice open source project -- and hopefully everyone can get his or her own PIS-address too! (If one so wishes.) The VERY ROUGH (for my eyes only) design suggestion is at www.kulturbrause.de/punks/punks3.htm .

ANY FEEDBACK, COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS, AND FURTHER CALLS FOR HELP & SUPPORT WILL BE GREATLY ACKNOWLEDGED!

[Burn]

Sure thing, like i said, just a brainstorm, did this thing in about 10 mins or so. Just to get some input on what you and the other people think. Anyone care to get specific on what should be different?

As for fonts, yeah, i just took this stenciled font, thought it looked ok. There are other fonts out there, of course. But do you really wanna create your own PIS font, or did I get this wrong?

You might wanna check these out, they are freeware and could work well with the site and related designs, IMHO:

www.1001fonts.com/font_details.html?font_id=2568


www.pennyzine.com/fonts.htm


As for the new site design, I think it looks very good. Although, I think it sacrifices the "Punk flavour" the old site had for content surfacing and better visibility. I think it should be more punk. In my opinion, the new site design equals science with natural science (see formulas and test tube images in logo), that's at least how it comes across to a certain degree.
Maybe there is a way of introducing more punk elements? Like a watermark (a fixed background image; Jan W will know this) over which the content of the site scrolls?

Also, I just thought of a possible problem. If you will offer free email addresses, people might come and register just for the sake of the email address. Not only those who think this address is cool, but also others who might use the address as a fake address to do stuff you might not want to be affiliated with (hackers, crackers, spamming etc). In either case, this will create traffic that someone will have to pay for (depends on your contract with the provider, whether email traffic is infinite or must not exceed x Gigabytes per month). The worst thing that could happen in a worst case scenario is that your bandwidth is exceeded and the site will be shut down until the next month. I know, this is unlikely to happen, but nevertheless you might wanna check that out first.

[Kleanthes]

Sounds good. Reactions:

- "natural" science was our initial thought anyway -- but in the end everyone is his own judge whether he thinks he's doing "science"

- i didn't mean to create a PIS font -- there's gazillions out there, let's just pick something cooler than stencil, that's all i meant (thanks for the links)

- good point about email addresses -- whoever wants one get in touch with me and i be the judge... (fuck all this democracy!)

[Kleanthes]

ok, super, i just downloaded all the mac fonts. it's gonna be one (or two) of them -- there's a bunch of really cool ones out there, way cool! any suggestions?

[Burn]

Just read through the usage policy on the pennyzine.com site. If you want to use these fonts for a webpage, you'll need prior consent from the author of the fonts or at least drop him a line which font you're using. But with the nature of his site that won't be a problem (see usage policy below)...

Thanks for downloading a Penny Font!
I have just a few small guidlines pertaining to the use of my fonts.

1. I do not allow the use of my fonts for any "Evil Empires" so-to-speak. These include but are in no way limited to Nike, Walmart, Gap, McDonalds, etc. Basically, any large corporation that degrades the standard of life, human or otherwise.

2. I do not allow the use of my fonts for any group or organization I feel does a disservice to mankind. This includes but is not limited to any Hate Group, Government Ogranization, or any Religious organizations that promote racism or homophobia as a doctrine.

3. You may not distribute my fonts without prior consent.

Those are my simple terms. I would also ask that if you use a font for something, drop me a line and let me know, I like to hear about it!

Check back often for more new fonts!

www.pennyzine.com
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LOL

[Kleanthes]

I noticed it already and prepared a mail to be sent off once we use it... ;D

[D.P. Rubino]

Just a quick note:

I really dig the new proposed layout....and that logo is a rockin'.

tee-shirts with the logo would be a cool thing too...

--dan ;D

[ghost]

Hi, Dan - great to find you here again. How are you doing?

The new site design looks awsome, and looks like the new logo could also look OK on a shirt. It will have a somewhat worn look and if you add well-worn and well-torn jeans ...

[D.P. Rubino]

Hey Natasha,

Yeah..been busy this summer. My prof. got a grant that I'm working on and actually getting paid! what an amazing thing....

Unfortunatley the work is straying further from traditional theoretical linguistics and is causing me to put the brakes on a lot of other projects/commitments, but I'm learning how to use ERP (event-related potential) which is cool. so it's a trade off.

other than that, gearing up for the Republican convention here in a couple of weeks! How's your summer a going?

[Kleanthes]

by the way, i just heard back from olaf of the stage bottles (<http://www.stagebottles.de>, have i mentioned this before...?) and we've got the ok to use the ROSE'N'BONES. it's time we produce some quality designs now, i'm ready to order... burn: let me know when you have some time and we can email back and forth some ideas (and anybody else who has some ideas). cheers!